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Leave the hammer drill in the shed. 2" joints may be too big for polymeric (read the bag/box). Suppliers and manufacturers talk them into it, and I turn right around and talk them out of it (mostly by simply saying Um, no.). please reply with name of screening, where to buy and if method i am thinking is good. If my advice is at all helpful, then please share my stuff on social media. Re-read the article please Actually, Ill go back and edit, put a few words in bold and make it a bit more clear. What is the best order to correct an incompleted project gone awry? My stepdad used to buy something called tufa that he would put on paths to the horse barn to keep them from getting muddy. We have an existing flagstone patio which was built on a layer of crushed limestone with the same in between the flagstones. It does not get dug out by ants, weeds cant grow through it and it does not wash out. Hi, love the blog, just stumbled into it and you have a great skill at explaining things. Ive never studied it, never used it for a client and been unable to study its utility over the yearswhich is a major omission on my part. Remove all the polymeric sand from in between the flagstonesget it all out of there. Good luck! Stone dust, all week long my friend. We are a team of passionate homeowners, home improvement pros, and DIY enthusiasts who enjoy sharing home improvement, housekeeping, decorating, and more with other homeowners! And, if so, is there a way to do this so you dont see the border material for the finished project? I have tried poly sand (with the correct amts of watering)but find that the sand forms a crust, other areas may be soft and mushy, and if I dig down it is not solid. Stays slightly flexible so it doesnt crack ((yes.it cracks, sometimes)). My husband and I were considering using the polymeric sand in our new flagstone patio but my gut was telling me to go with the natural product. I have pea gravel in the entire enclosure. Really, the screenings are made ofsmall chips of stone, about one eighth of an inch in size, with tiny powder-like fine material mixed in as well. But yes, for a DG path, a border or edge material is generally necessary. But whatever the foundation is, it shouldnt develop such a vast chasm. The Patio is shaded except during the winter. I wanted something that would promote drainage and have a natural look. Is it worth bothering with or will the gravel do the job itself? Im not sure what was put between them at the time. Do you have pea gravel? Just say no to polymeric jointing sand. Thank you again and Best Regards! Ive been researching decomposed granite and want to use that but cannot find a place to buy it. Get a product called gravel lok or a pebble binder product use them a lot they work great. A pea gravel patio can be surprisingly difficult to keep maintained and repaired. Fact is that you simply can not use polymeric sand as a replacement for taking your time and doing the job right. Are there certain colors light or dark? When gravel shifts, it can expose the weed cloth underneath, letting weeds overtake the edges of your gravel walkway or driveway. Removing the grout is going to be a horrendous job. Hello Chris. I dont know what type of drain they installed.or what they did wrong. Start your subscription today and save up to 70%. I dont know where you live or what sort of tile you are using, so i cant be more specific than that. Polymeric sand is basically sand mixed with an acrylic binder. Anyway, after its gone just sweep in screeinings and be happy. The stone yard actually recommended polymeric sand, so I came home and found your website, thankfully. This, I believe, answers your need for a walkway where most of the gravel stays in place, yet is still permeable. Havent had any issues of stone dust getting into the pool, 3 years later. Hello, could you please post a few close up pictures of the stone screenings that you use so we can try to match our locally available products as closely as possible. Ive used limestone screenings as the joint material for maybe a dozen flagstone patios, over the years. First, lay a foundation of compacted stone aggregate, then lay individual flagstones using screenings as the leveling agent. It would compact into a pretty hard surface over time. Nor would I use any sort of caulk. This is hard for the dogs to walk on (sharp edges). Video of the Day. The joint however stays put.now you have a hollow void, either underneath the stone, or just beneath the joint. If an area is Shady or damp then sometimes that can cause thin algae growth that can make flagstones look dirty. Halsted White Sand & Utility Bags 50 lb. Flagstone, and such-like. Best of luck! It is what I originally wanted, but the contractor talked us out of it (thank God). Any garden center or landscape supply place should have what you are looking for. Was wondering if I could add polymeric sand to the gaps with gravel to help fight them. Does anything on this page (http://highlandls.com/products/) or this page (https://www.landscapeandgarden.com/gravel-decorative-rock) jump out to you as being the product you recommend? Do we need to remove all the flagstones, then scrape everything and start back? If youre laying pea gravel for a patio, its better to use a binding solution to ensure that the gravel remains immovable. It consists of 3/4 gravel mixed with the same screenings that I was speaking of in the article. Jobsite Saw PRO has a wider table, a new dust-control port, and a more versatile fence, along with the same reliable safety mechanism included in all SawStop tablesaws. 2023 The Taunton Press, Inc. All rights reserved. Not to be pendantic! Great work, youve inspired another. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Thanks for saving me from the poly sand! If you just have sand in.and no road base gravelthen absolutely, take up the flagstone and do it all over. These will be an acrylic polymer epoxy resign stuff.essentially, liquid plastic. Any corrections or suggestions I should be advised of? You can choose from various materials like plastic edging or metal borders. 2 or 3? Quikrete Assorted All-Purpose Gravel 50 lb. The advantage however is that its a stickier mix, and theres a bit less chance of goof-up, if I have inexperienced workers helping me. Now what? Push down on it, one corner of the stone at a time. Low void content, contains fines, is used as road foundations. I wish everyone would do that. Im replacing an existing paver patio that was installed on a gravel/stone dust base with flagstones. Crushed gravel can range in different sizes too and is often used for driveways, paths, and decorative purposes. Sorry. pressure washing will definitely break screenings/decomposed granite loose from the joints. I have no advice nor opinions and nothing at all to say about permeable pavers. Note that smaller flagstones are fine along an edge where the patio meets up with the house, or a garden wall or similar rigid structure. I already clear out a 15 X 15 for my back patio. Please share any ideas. Good luck! Results may varypolymeric sand is not always easy to fix.. No freeze-thaw issues. Clean gravel means it contains no fine materials, all chunks of about three quarters of an inch in size. Some areas actually need it more than once a year I live in Connecticut, and parts of my patio and walkways dont get much sunlight. Personally, my preference is to merely lay larger stone along the edge of the patiohave all of your edge flagstones, large. Ive always seen travertine fit snug with no joint, no joint material.or, with some sort of product that I dont use. I will check out your website further. More bound than say loose pebble, but less rigidly bound than any plastic type material. We dug eight inches deep, used broken concrete chunks, and then filled the voids with #411 limestone gravel, (1 1/2 inches to fines), and then #10 limestone screening on top. An angle grinder or similar tool may be used. Actually, one extra stepthey like you to first excavate for your walkway, then lay out this plastic honeycomb material, then fill that honeycomb with clean gravelits a two inch thick honeycomb, then pour 2 of the gravel glue mix on top of that.so you need to get your excavation fairly level for the honeycomb to sit right.you also need to set an edging material of some kind before you pour the glue gravel stuffwe used two x fours, staked into place, which we removed after the walkway was set, after the glue had hardened. For the most part the patio is sunken 1 inch compared to the barrier strip. Anyway, I suspect white screenings are going to be too white for what youre trying to match. Thanks, I added your sculpture to my Facebook timeline nice work! Youll be fine using screenings. We suspected that the sand had to be replace or refill/reapply, we just didnt know what was causing what we were seeing. I thought I was the only one because the rookies and the guys who just want the money sell it like its some kind of elixir. Its looks like a flat matte color where there was poly sand and where no poly sand you see a beautiful high gloss high color finish.this is the best analogy I can think of. - M.K. I wonder if you could mix something like that in with your gravel? I was not thrilled with it at the time but time and money influenced our decision. See that off-white material between the flagstones? So fun, so tiring!). Do I start with stone dust and then add a top layer of topsoil? The walkway to my front door is about 50 feet long but rises about 6-7 feet over about nine 7 inch high steps. Just approach the work with heart and youll be alright. The next step is to install the base. Devin, Thank you for this blog and great info. Ive used products before where you actually add a binder to the gravel. Year and years later, no problembut then I have seen hardscapes built by other contractors, that used white gravel for the foundationand seen jobs like that fail. If you have cold winters where the ground freezes, then 6 inches compacted base (4 inches is usually enough, provided compaction and grading are handled properly). Placing a border around the perimeter of pea gravel paths and walkways is one of the best ways to stabilize pea gravel. Also can I expect your comment via email or simply on this site? Just to confirm, anything called Breeze will be the material you like best and that which you call screenings? I recently laid down a flagstone patio in sand and used sand to fill the joints. Please reread the article.and just say no to polymeric sand for your flagstone patio. Epoxy Resin. The thing is.I dont think sealing the joints would really help much. We bought pea gravel at a local landscape supply company in some 5 gallon buckets for a couple of dollars each. The previous comment about the smaller stones becoming loose made me wonder if using the red steppers will work. 3. I cant recommend a particular company as Ive only stalled the stuff a couple of times. Or 1/4 inch minus gravelof all the synonyms used so far in this article and in the comments, youre the first to bring up 1/4 minus gravel. In cases of larger gaps like that, Ive had good experiences using: -larger 1-2 river rock. The 10-in. Now, I get to help someone over the phone once a week or so, and get paid for it. Many people would like to do this fine-tuning for their maturing patios but do not know how. Hey! I like this idea but they are quite an expensive solution to fix this $32 load of gravel 2. The smallest grade of gravel generally available, consisting of small 1/8 or less chips of stone and fine stone dust, like powder. Dry laid is hugely my preference, in any place with a freeze-thaw cycle. Small voids may form. It does dissolve some plastics, not all, so who knows? The recommended base layer is #3 or #57 crushed stone. com should give you all the help you need in this regard. On the right hand side is modified gravel, or d.o.t road base. dockelly | Apr 10, 2009 08:39pm | #8. Am I correct in assuming that I can use this also to level out some stones? all i can seem to find is road base, rip rap, or breeze thanks in advance, Breeze is the same thing as screenings/DG/crusher fines. Spread it all over and hosed it down into cracks. In reality, nothing is impossible. Please advise what to do. And that is your preference? I re-rake the kennels every few days to keep the coverage even. Hi Devin, Ive loved to play with rocks and recently did some work at our camp on Moosehead Lake (ME). Stone dust/decomposed granite would work well in the dry months, but in North Californias rainy season..Im just concerned that the trenches have concrete at the bottom, so the stone dust would have no way to dry out, for months at a time. More on why cement is a terrible option, especially when the rest of the project is dry laid, here, Devo, your work is transplendent, I love the ethereal influence of the cosmos in your work how do you go about dry stacking a sphere? hi, I just finished building a house with permeable driveway. Then top off with extra stone dust, hose down, etc. We got heavy rain and its very wet and now some of the stones move and are sloshing around in the stone dust there are no pools of water but its really soft and the lots of the stones move and almost slosh down when stepped on. I have completed about 25% of the 800 sf of patio and walkway via this method. I just want to say thank you for your articles and all the questions youve answered on here. Keep your flagstone joints less than 2 inches wide. This more or less turns your stone dust into polymeric sandand you know the risks involved with that. It is an excellent material for leveling out your flagstonesthe best in my opinion, and likewise it is the best joint filler for flagstones. Where are you in PA? Perhaps the stone dust/screenings in your area are different then what I have access to. Scroll half-way down on this link and find the section with the heading How to install stone dust in between your flagstones Sometimes people overfill their joints to begin with, then wonder why they have material spilling out onto the patioaim to have your flagstone joints filled to about an 8th of an inch lower than the top of your flagstones. Egon. | Paver Base Panel vs. Gravel For Patio Base | Patio Ideas On A Budget. Pea gravel is commonly used for walkways, driveways, and as filler between stone pavers around the home. so my first thought was ants.I have never seen rodents leave sand piles atop a flagstone, so Im still leaning towards ants. Best recommendation is to use large flagstone, small joints, stone dust/decomposed granite as the leveling agent and joint material. Im not sure what to do about the wasps so much maybe if you got the Moss firmly established it would stop looking like a good place for the wasps. The local product I found looks identical to yours. Thanks in advance. Thank you for your devotion to this subject. Tamp the gravelor not. If you want you can promote moss in the shady areaput some moss in the blender with old beer/buttermilk (perhaps this is what you mean by the yogurt method?) Yes, it stops the joint material, sand/stone dust in place, but it hardens up, then cracks up, then you got these broken up pieces of mortar. Portland cement should not be used. This can make the stone slippery and change its appearancewithout providing any benefit. No acrylic, plastic, or polymers are required in your project. That doesnt mean that they certainly wont work.but as a professional, they wouldnt usually be my first pick. I live in mid-state NJ and had a 17x30 ft. bluestone patio installed over a previously existing concrete patio base. I appreciate the advice. You need a foundation of compacted road base gravel. Can you suggest how I might fill in what was removed? Should I just wait until it dries out? I have had issues with weeds growing like crazy and for the past few years I have had digger wasps boring holes and burying their eggs in the holes. How old is your patio? It got cut off mid-sentence and Id hate to miss anything important. This downward slope on each side will help with water runoff and prevent washouts. We just put in a flagstone patio using decomposed granite in between the stones. This is basically putting an acrylic binder, liquid plastic, on top of the joints. Beyond that, if you want to email me photos and receive personal guidance, Id be happy to help you. Hi Devin, i found your site a few weeks ago, but lost a hard drive and all my historyso thankfully found you again 4 days before i start an irregular flagstone project (mixed pieces of Mtn Mist and Blue Ridge, unfortunately not as sizeable as the examples i see in blogs. Natural dirt could mean any combinations of these soil types. Also want to do a seat wall in it. Life happens. Never seal grave level exterior stone. Thanks! Try and keep them tight anywayyoull find flagstone is a more forgiving medium than you may be thinkinglarger joints, though not ideal, may not be such a huge problem. The water from the hose will cause the screenings to settlebut Ill also use the hose to wash out any joints where the stone dust remains even with the top of the flagstone because ultimately, what you want is to have the joints filled to about a quarter inch or so from the top of the flagstone. I was thinking of the polymeric hardening sand before reading your advice here and Im thinking screenings (Decomposed Granite I think is what its listed at in Lowes) might still seem attractive to the dogs if it is very loose like sand. Having said all that, I still prefer to fit pattern flagstone more tightly, quarter inch to eighth an inchon a recent 400 square foot patio that we built we had eighth inch gaps.. You simply sweep the material into the flagstone (or other paver) joints, lightly hose down, then it solidifies. Id never considered using steel slag for use with flagstone. Just power washed my patio of stone pavers. Fact is that you simply can not use polymeric sand as a replacement for taking your time and doing the job right. The article goes into more detail. Weed and ant proof. Cookie Notice I like the idea of the screenings but do we now have to remove all of the sand? Brett in Millersville,PA. So I think you can get away with a 2 joint, if thats what youre into. But that was 8 deep of crushed gravel, not just a 1/2 joint. Theres other ways to deal with weeds, but this article is getting long. I did find limestone screenings on this website: http://www.greenbuilderssupply.net/pr_bulk_materials_dumping.htm. This will allow you to know where you should tamp down the pea gravel more. Good. Finished with polymeric sand. You can purchase products like EasiHold or Gravel-Lok, or other epoxy coatings. Seriously, how much rain did you get? Take it dry and rake it in with the pea gravel , you dont want too much cement sitting on top . I don't think he was looking to make bumpsjust kinda level it outoysorry..lol, you so funny! Or, just fill the gap with road base gravel. You want to leave the joints approximately 1/8 to 1/4 below the top of the stone. 8 inches if any big trucks will be coming through ever. Do a search for how to propagate moss. OR, maybe fit small pieces of stone in, laid upright/on edge. consider setting up a phone/email consultation with a professional stone hardscape instructor. The two terms are often used interchangeably, but the two products should not be used interchangeably. Are your joints too wide? Or sand, if need be. JavaScript is disabled. Sweep in, hose down on shower setting, repeat.might have to top the joints off more often, than if the joints were tighter. With stone dust the most you have to do is top of the joints every once in awhile. As far as installing it over pea gravel it shouldnt be a problem as long as u have the required depth of polymeric (again check bag/box) 2. SHORT ANSWER: get some stone dust aka screenings. I love the look of pea gravel, but it sure doesn't handle traffic well. these fines, when dampened, actually do bind up with the larger chips, becoming semi-solid. What I do is I sweep stone dust/screenings in-between the flagstones, filling the joints until the stone dust is even with the top of the flagstone then I hose it down and off. The joints are being filled with stone dust or screening as you call it. Only now did I realize that I neglect to answer. Sure, with such large gaps the stone dust may kick out, and get on the stone surface, but it wont be an annoyance or a trip hazard, the way that larger gravel probably will. Thanks! Separation will happen. Sorry, never used it! Add the proper amount of cement and water and mix well by some mechanical means, smooth to grade and pack it. Hello Devin, I live in Ottawa, Canada and we have an old flagstone pathway. A gap that small can be left open. Weed 2007, FWIW, I would forget the pebble idea for a dog run. An experiment that would be worth a try would be to sprinkle a few cups of cement on a few square feet of pea gravel, rake litely, and mist thoroughly a few times. I really liked the overall performance of Techniseal HP2 Polymetric sand; so I went with this as the final selection. I was wondering how best to address a potential problem as winter is approaching. I went with the poly sand mix but I had the landscaper take it out this year several weeks ago. I suppose that may be the same thing as mortar mix, but I'm not sure. Reasons are described HERE. The modal window is a 'site map' of the most critical areas of the site. Ditto what had been said here about using pea gravel. If the foundation is dry laid, repair using dry laid methods/if the foundation is cement based, repair with cementious materials. Therefore, be aware of the possibility of water running off to the edges and plan accordingly. Great advice and beautiful work around the pool.. thank you! Thanks. Any cons to using mortar? Read the directions, follow precautions (gloves, mask, glasses). Further, the stone dust I have seen is just the flour part of the DG that you describe using, without any of the 1/8 particles. As such, I wouldnt really consider a dry lay option on top of old concrete unless the customer very much wanted it, and unless the flagstone itself were going to have a really tight fitting joints for example if it was going to be a pattern cut, square and rectangular flagstones with minimal joints then, if the walkway is pitched strong enough there really is not much way for a very much in order to get down there in the first place. Also, do not have the hose on too powerful of a setting, or you can blow the poly sand right out of the joint, and get it all over the flagstone/paver/whatever. As a replacement for taking your time and money influenced our decision sand. 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